Ben himself received 500 of these emails: http://irclog.iq.harvard.edu/dataverse/2015-07-15#i_21683 :( This incident has made me question the very existence of this list. Ben and I are seriously considering shutting it down, at least in its current form. We just kicked off a second day of deciding what to do: http://irclog.iq.harvard.edu/dataverse/2015-07-16 I think we should shut this list down in its current form (hosted on Harvard's installation of Mailman) for the following reasons: 1. It has "dvn" in the name but we've renamed the software to "Dataverse". "DVN" is a legacy term that refers to the 3.x version of the software before the 4.x rewrite 2. The ridiculous number of "unsubscribe me" emails we've gotten. We let the attackers win. Fine. I don't have any control over the Mailman installation anyway. There's not much I can do personally. Furthermore, I think we should seriously consider *not* setting up a separate list (such as on Google Groups) for the following reasons: - We could use the main Google Group at https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/dataverse-community instead because it's low traffic and a lot of what we talk about here would probably be of interest to the whole Dataverse community. Now that Shibboleth support has shipped (though flagged as experimental in 4.0) it is certainly on topic to ask questions about setting it up, how the feature works, bugs, what else is planned, etc. - Now that we have moved from Redmine to GitHub issues it is *much* easier for the community to participate in public discussion of all features (not just auth) by leaving comments at https://github.com/IQSS/dataverse/issues I'm probably forgetting something but I hope this helps. I appreciate the feedback I've gotten on this list! Any thoughts on all this are quite welcome! Please feel free to jump in at http://chat.dataverse.org as well! Phil p.s. I'm also the coordinator of the API Community Group and I have no plans to set up a separate mailing list: http://community.dataverse.org/community-groups/api.html On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 3:47 AM, Ben Companjen <ben.companjen(a)dans.knaw.nl> wrote: -- Philip Durbin Software Developer for http://dataverse.org http://www.iq.harvard.edu/people/philip-durbin